Woodside Petroleum Ltd (WPL)2010 Half Year Results Briefing18 August 2010 - CEO & Managing Director: Don VoelteMr Don Voelte CEO / Managing Director present the 2010 Half Year Results Briefing, held at 12.30pm, on Wednesday 18 August 2010. |
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Interview TranscriptOperator:Ladies and Gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Woodside Half Year Results conference call. At this time all participants are in a listen only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question and answer session at which time if you wish to ask a question you will need to press star one on your telephone. I must advise that this conference is being recorded today, Wednesday 18 August 2010. I’d now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Mr Don Voelte. Thank you, sir. Please go ahead. Don Voelte:Thank you. Once again, we appreciate everyone tuning in today and your continued interest in Woodside. We think we have a cracker of a report to present today. With me today I have Mark Chatterji. I’d also like to welcome Lawrie Tremaine who is our Deputy CFO and will take over from Mark when he leaves at the end of this year. Now, I’ve got the rest of my management team sitting just right next door here. Mark Chatterji:Thanks Don and good morning to everybody. I’m going to review our half year results beginning with production on slide 7. During the first six months of 2010, Woodside produced 36.7 million barrels of oil equivalent. That’s down from around 40 million of oil equivalent produced in the comparable period. The difference is partially due to the natural decline of the oil portfolio and partially due to the completion of the Otway disposal in March of this year. For full year 2010 our expectation remains unchanged between 70 million to 75 million barrels of oil equivalent. Don Voelte:Thanks Mark. I'm on slide 16. Before I elaborate further on Woodside's very strong options for the future I'd like to follow up on comments I made at the full year presentation in February. As you may remember, I commented on the detail of the economic parameters we use at Woodside for investments, especially LNG investments. Now building on that I'd like to remind folks that for existing projects on a financial basis we concentrate on revenue enhancement, expense control and integrity continuity. In other words maintain integrity at the lower operating cost, maximise facility utilisation and sell our product at the maximum value. Over on slide 17, the point I'm building to is very simple. If the investment world stopped and took a snapshot of existing Company assets to make their share purchase choice I would feel extremely comfortable with how Woodside would compete. We're very close to having six trains with 6.6 million tons per annum LNG equity production which we'll be able to enjoy for decades to come. Not bad for a AUD35 billion company. Add a still prolific group of oil assets with a strong but focused exploration portfolio and our base business for the size of our company and accompanying share value I think is second to none. Operator:Your first question today comes from Gordon Ramsay from UBS. Please go ahead. Gordon Ramsay:(UBS, Analyst) Thank you very much. Don, just referring to slide 37, we were looking at the inner and central hubs as potential sources of supply for Pluto expansion. Just trying to get a feel on how that relates to the drilling program going forward and, in particular I think it's Camus, Moyet and Remy. Don Voelte:Thank you Gordon for the question. I think that we have picked these wells because of what we're now able to interpret as good amplitude support on seismic. I will tell you, Remy and Martin I think are no brainers. Gordon Ramsay:(UBS, Analyst) Just one other, Don. You mentioned five trains potential with Pluto, two being reserved for other resource owners up until the end of 2010. That's not a long time. What happens if they don't make a decision by then? Don Voelte:Well, it will begin in our current drilling program, how we see it. Right now, I'd say we have placeholders for two and two. Clearly, it could go three and one or one or three. Potentially, depending on success one way or the other it could go four to [zero] that's not important. Gordon Ramsay:(UBS, Analyst) Okay, thank you. Operator:Next question is from John Hirjee from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead, sir. John Hirjee:(Deutsche Bank, Analyst) A question, if I can on you mentioned about the competing projects being Gorgon and the worries about the human capital issues not materialising. Could you expand on that? Are you suggesting that they're not progressing as quickly as possible? Don Voelte:Well, no I'm not. I was very careful to say that. They haven't announced - I think the only announcement they've made on Gorgon, if I can quote is: we think we're on schedule. John Hirjee:(Deutsche Bank, Analyst) Okay, thank you. A follow up question then, if I may, how do you see that timeline in terms of that window of opportunity that you're saying has now expanded? How long do you think you have? Don Voelte:Yeah, you know, I'm not going to set a new target because I've got to tell you, it's extremely competitive now. We're watching contractors trying to play us off too with others. So by placing a new idea, what the timeline for that competitiveness, let me just say right now, we've got every bit full of Pluto. We've got 4000 up there. I'm pretty sure we've got a lot of contractors that want to stay with Woodside versus the other options too. So I’m not as concerned about that as I was. But I will tell you, we have more time, but I’m not going to try and guess again what that deadline might be. John Hirjee:Okay Don, thank you. Operator:Next question is from Andrew Hines from the Commonwealth Bank. Please go ahead, sir.
Andrew Hines:(Commonwealth Bank, Analyst) Thank you. My question is regarding the Pluto Expansion. Don, I guess a couple of things around that. In previous presentations you’ve shown some slides showing moving gas volumes around from train one to train two and you can front end train two contracts with gas and you’re sort of particularly borrowing from train one. Those slides aren’t in the presentation today. Don Voelte:Yeah, two questions there. Mark’s cleverly writing me some notes here which are good. Let me just say that number one, let’s be very clear about this. What is contracted gas or Pluto is not included in any volumetric chart that we’ve shown you today for expansion trains. Those are dedicated. Can we borrow some of that gas and return it later? Yes, we can do that. That option is still available to us and it creates a good opportunity for us. Number two, your questions on the economics ORO, I can’t say much because it is competitive out there, obviously as you’ve seen. Also, it’s very, I don’t want to give anything over on the negotiations we’re presently have underway. Andrew Hines:(Commonwealth Bank, Analyst) Thanks. Operator:The next question comes from Paul Garvey from Financial Review. Please go ahead, sir. Paul Garvey:(Financial Review, Analyst) Okay Don, how are you? Just a quick question, do you feel your negotiating position in the third party discussions is strengthening thanks to the discoveries this week? Don Voelte:I’d leave that for you to decide. But we’ve never doubted that we would have more discoveries. I think people thought that we ran into a couple of dry holes. Of course we were kind of drilling what you might call the perimeters, kind of making sure that we kind of knew what we had. We suffered, I guess you’d say, from one or two dry holes but we always expected that in exploration. I tell you what, if exploration tells me they’re going to get 60% discoveries, I’m pretty much on cloud nine. I will just tell you, we never doubted our explorationists. I think if you talk to explorations they will tell you management in this company is very supportive and we knew that they would get it. I’ll tell you, they have. Paul Garvey:(Financial Review, Analyst) Good way to look at it. There’s some commentary as well, in the Director’s report around the industrial relations climate. Are you particularly concerned about what could happen in that landscape if Labor is returned at the weekend? Don Voelte:I would say that right now we’re set up extremely well with whatever the citizens of Australia choose to have as a government. We will continue to carry our message to Canberra as well as to the state houses where we operate. We get a very good listen from the Labor Government. We get a very good listen from the opposition. I don’t talk much to the Greens so I don’t know if they give me a good listen or not. But I’ll just say that we’re happy either way. That’s not a decision for Woodside to influence, that’s not a decision for a company to influence. That’s a decision for the citizens of Australia to make. Paul Garvey:(Financial Review, Analyst) Sure. I just wondered, if I can, what stage are you at with regards to discussions around marketing of volumes from Pluto Two? Don Voelte:Let me hand that over to Mark. All the marketing goes through Reinhardt which is in Mark’s portfolio. Mark Chatterji:Hi Paul. On Pluto Expansion as well as on Browse and Sunrise, it’s fair to say we talk to a variety of customers in and around the Asia Pacific region on all of our projects. So when we go and gauge the customers we really talk about more Woodside’s portfolio as opposed to one specific project. Paul Garvey:(Financial Review, Analyst) Right. I mean, the market would like to see some value locked away for Pluto too. I mean at what point could we expect to see something there? Mark Chatterji:I think with the Pluto Expansion as Don said, we’re going to be working on this into 2011. I think you expect to see the market parallel, the development of the project itself. Don Volte:I suspect the customers will be very interested in the appraisal also. Paul Garvey:(Financial Review, Analyst) Great, thanks very much. Operator:Next question comes from Mr Stuart Baker from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead, sir. Stuart Baker:(Morgan Stanley, Analyst) Morning gentlemen. I’ve got a lot of questions about the state of the LNG markets and pricing in particular. We’ve seen quite a bit of volatility in some of the longer term contracts in recent years. Looking back at the original Pluto contract, in terms of what we could expect, in terms of how that gas is sold, should we look at the Pluto One price structure as a base or a reasonable outcome on Pluto Two or Three? Could you do better than Pluto One for example? Finally how does CPC fit into this? I do recall that originally their key agreement was reasonably flexible as to where the supply could come from and I’m interested to hear that that could be converted to something more solid like a GSA. Could that be supplied from Pluto Two to underpin that for example? Mark Chatterji:Hi Stuart, it’s Mark again. Look, as you well know, the requirements of every project are different and so some of our objectives as sellers will change when we’re looking at marketing the brown filled expansion versus marketing a green filled project. That’s the first thing to keep in mind. The second part of your question with regards to CPC, and we’ve spoke with them at length as this is really them selling, to my previous point, to Woodside as a company as opposed to any one project for them buying from Woodside as a company versus any one project. Certainly discussions between ourselves and them continue on that portfolio basis. Stuart Baker:(Morgan Stanley, Analyst) I presume from that you could sign a binding gas agreement presumably well before Browse bases at a point where you’d make a go forward decision. Mark Chatterji:Look, I think following the Government’s decision on retention licences then in December it’s fair to say that everybody here is working on Browse to take it to the FYD in mid 2012 to stipulate in the retention licence. Stuart Baker:(Morgan Stanley, Analyst) Right. Okay, thanks. Operator:Next question is from Adrian Wood from Macquarie. Please go ahead, sir. Adrian Wood:(Macquarie, Analyst) Hi there. Most of my questions have already been asked but just a couple of things. First of all, it does seem like WA 404 is increasingly becoming the focus for Pluto 2 gas. If that is the case and all the gas comes from there, can you give us any sense as to what you expect Woodside’s ultimate equity stake to be in Pluto Two? I believe before you’d given us a range of sort of 60% to 75%. Any update there at all? Don Voelte:Yeah, I think people probably underestimate how much gas we have closer to a platform in our original Pluto lease so we’ve connected the inner and 404 together in the chart and we’ve done that on purpose. We don't necessarily need to drill - we had to drill Eris, we drilled Pelion, we're going to be drilling probably one or two more wells [Hess, Pixus] along the way but we have great seismic control there and we can prognose very well there. So there's probably more gas in that lease which we own 90% of than what people are probably speculating compared to 404 possibly but 404 will come on. Adrian Wood:(Macquarie, Analyst) Will it be a simple unitisation calculation or would there be some reflection of the infrastructure you already have in place that may be claws back a bit of extra equity for you? Don Voelte:I think that that's an area that's completely - something I don't want to talk about today because that's exactly probably some of the issues that we will need to get through. Adrian Wood:(Macquarie, Analyst) I mean, just to clarify on the slide 36 and 37, that green band that you've got there are we safe assuming that the bottom end is a 15 year contract and the top end is a 20 year contract? Don Voelte:Let me just say that that's - nothing much on the 15 year contract in figuring out those volumes needed because you need that for economic returns to the investment of the trains because of the cost of the trains. Interesting enough the offshore cost of - at this - at this point when you have the greenfields built, which we do, when we get Pluto foundation in, the switch of costs go to the offshore component now versus the onshore component. Adrian Wood:(Macquarie, Analyst) Okay. Fine, great and then just finally looking at the capex slide on 14, it looks just using the current exchange rates, that you are fully exploiting the full 10% increase to the capex budget announced for Pluto in - back in November last year but it also seems like you are stripping out about $350 odd million of capex away from the rest of the business to - to essentially fund that - that increased cost base of Pluto. Mark Chatterji:Yeah, look Adrian I think on your first point as we said when we first put up this capex slide we just went ahead and budgeted at the top end because we had to put something on the slide and so the 10% is correct. Your second question was as far as the rest of the business? Adrian Wood:(Macquarie, Analyst) Yeah, it just looks to me like when you just do the - do the maths obviously the Pluto number has gone up quite considerably from the November guidance you gave us at the investor day and that was obviously flagged with cost overrun but the - it looks like some of that's being paid for by reduced capital spend on the rest of the business. Mark Chatterji:Well I think the first thing I'd say about that is it's not deliberately being re-programmed. As you can tell from our liquidity positions of cash in hand and in committed but undrawn facilities we're sitting quite good in terms of our ability to fund things and so it's really more kind of the various parts of the business that has swings and roundabouts in terms of their capital budgets and so some of them will come down and some of them will come up but in terms of deliberating re-programming funds from one area to Pluto that's actually not happening. Adrian Wood:(Macquarie, Analyst) Okay, great. Thanks very much. Mark Chatterji:Sure. Operator:The next question comes from Peter Klinger from The West Australian. Please go ahead, sir. Peter Klinger:(The West Australian, Analyst) Yeah, hi Don. Most of my questions have been answered too but I was just wondering if you can talk about a bit more about talks with Exxon and BHP over [Scarborough]? Don Voelte:Well, I don't think we mentioned any names of anything. I know some people from some of those companies have said they're talking to us and that but we have confidentiality agreements in place. Let me just say that we are talking to three, four, some odd parties which may or may not involve the people you said. So no specifics as to any particular companies but people are talking to us about everything from us processing their gas and marketing their gas to us processing their gas and then them marketing, all the way to equity involvement in trying to get - we constantly get people trying to - want to farm into our gas. Actually one of the nice things about Alaric and also the Ragnar Hub is we own it 100%. We're going to keep it 100% and at least for the time being as we go through it. Life's a lot simpler and so we're in pretty good shape there but people have brought to us some pretty darn interesting thoughts about what we can do for them and I think they're getting a lot of direction from their headquarters about taking a look at what other people can do for them that are really good at the business. Peter Klinger:(The West Australian, Analyst) Don, just one on a totally different level you say in your statement that you sold out of your Sierra Leone project. Can you give any sort of guidance on what the plans are for Brazil? Don Voelte:Yeah, we - I don't think we - we've told the terms - we got a good result for our Sierra Leone, Liberia operations. Pretty soon here with Algeria we've got one thing left there plus some Libya things which I think will come to an end here shortly. The bottom line is we're real happy with re-focusing our structure to what we do best. On Brazil, let me just say we've drilled four wells down there. Peter Klinger:(The West Australian, Analyst) Thanks. Don Voelte:Especially in Sierra Leone, Liberia. Operator:The next question is from Mr Mark Greenwood from Citi. Please go ahead, sir. Mark Greenwood:(Citi, Analyst) Good day, Don. Thanks for taking my question. First of all I was wondering if you could outline what the key milestones are in your mind that need to be achieved before you can take Pluto to the board for FID and specifically do you need an appraised reserve? Do you need to complete the feed study, not only for the downstream scope but also for the upstream scope and lastly do you need a binding sale agreement? Don Voelte:Yeah, if you're taking about a FID there's literally dozens of things that we need. You mentioned some of them and some of them are well underway. Obviously right now Lucio and Niall Myles and the gang are parallel tracking a lot of that along with the exploration efforts, along with the team that's working with other resource owners. Mark Greenwood:(Citi, Analyst) All right. Just judging on the presentation there on slide 35 which has got your appraisal into sort of the first half of next year, after you complete that would you then look to go into a feed study for the upstream scope? Don Voelte:Well, let me just say this, that you - you - you want to appraise to make sure - we've got darn - what we're looking at right now, we've got pretty darn good seismic control and the offshore concept, let me just say, is not something that we're not working on already. We've got a team down in Houston that are working - studying some deepwater gas facilities on a cost basis to enhance our knowledge. We've hired a few people in here that are deepwater gas facility experts and they're really good. The feed doesn't have to take a long time because we've got a lot of work. The [unclear] group is doing a great job on it and it's coming along. So it's not like some day we flip on a switch and say, oh we've got to do an offshore feed. It's well underway already. Mark Greenwood:(Citi, Analyst) Okay and just moving on to Pluto 1, in particular your guidance for start up, when you talk about the first planned LNG for the end of March I'm just wondering whether that's the first drop of LNG or the first cargo sold because I understand there can be a couple of months of cool down in between the two? Don Voelte:Yeah, let me just say this, that our first ready for start up, that means ready to do stuff, we have about a 26 day gap between first LNG. The time we actually take a cargo of LNG out after we make the first droplets of LNG is variable. It could be a fairly short period or very long, depending on how many times we have to take the train up and down for issues that we might find. So talking about ramp up is something that Vince and his team get real nervous about, because sometimes these things just turn on and run like a top, sometimes they bounce up and down for a while. In one case that we had, we had a real difficulty where when we brought it up we had to shut it down for 30 days. Mark Greenwood:(Citi, Analyst) Okay. Just one final quick one. On the Neptune impairment, is there a reserve downgrade also associated with that? Don Voelte:Yeah, it's pretty minimalist. We do our reserves, as you know, February of every year. Let me just forecast this for you, because it is so small. It's 2.2 million barrels I think, latest calculation, for a Woodside share of it. This is not something that maybe the other companies' partners are doing. We just felt that the number - you know, what's going on in the Gulf of Mexico right now, and no letup of the moratorium. Just taking BHP's operator ship plans into effect, we didn’t feel comfortable as management - that was a big part of that decision - in keeping the number of wells on the ticket. Mark Greenwood:(Citi, Analyst) Thanks Don. Operator:The next question is James [Loewen] from Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead sir. James Loewen:(Merrill Lynch, Analyst)] Hi Don. My question's on long lead items for Pluto 2. I'm just wondering when you'd have to order those if you were going to have first gas by say end of 2013, which has been the previous schedule? Don Voelte:Well we'll give you guidance on that. Just because we are saying we can take a little bit more time to study the other people resource options versus our own options, we didn't say anything this time about RFSU. James Loewen:(Merrill Lynch, Analyst)] Thanks for that. Don Voelte:I think I'm going to be able to take two more questions, from what they're telling me here. Operator:The final questions now will come from [Jet Ling Tan] from Barclays Capital. Please go ahead. Jet Ling Tan:(Barclays Capital, Analyst)] Good morning, thanks for taking the call. Most of my questions have been answered, but just curious on the Pluto to FID. You mentioned it's now been pushed towards 2011, and just wondering if you can be more specific in terms of the timeline? Don Voelte:Well if I knew how long it was going to take to negotiate with these other companies who are bringing us some good options, and if I knew how long it was going to take me to drill a few of these wells, I'd be willing to stick something out there on the table. But I think you're going to have to have a little faith in Woodside management, that we know what we're doing. At the end of the day, the years it takes and the billions of dollars to build these trains, to me the front end definition of what the best deal is, with what is the best mix of gas and what is the most economic deal I can make - if I take one, two, three, four, five, six extra months to get that right, then I'll take the punishment that you'll give me for setting a target date that I thought I was going head to head with Gorgon and an exploration where I didn't get a rig. I'll take that punishment any day of the week to make sure I get the right decision for our shareholders. One last question. Operator:The question comes from Mark Wiseman from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Don Voelte:Yeah, I'm glad you made that comment. All of these graphs that we're showing are 100 per cent gas, no matter who the owner is on those leases. We've got very willing joint venture partners on these blocks. They all want to maximise their opportunity here. When you hear the Hess thing that goes on, recognise they have other gas in the area that we don’t have equity to, and that's probably some of the confusion that goes on out there. Operator:Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the day's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. End of Transcript More Open Briefings from Woodside Petroleum Ltd |
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